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		<title>She wants to see you again!  HALT.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you&#8217;ve gone on a great first date, or maybe even a few dates.  You&#8217;ve followed all the rules without playing games: you delivered curiosity for her life, you&#8217;ve figured out that she has a high desire grade level towards you, she&#8217;s not pitching tentative dates to you but solid ones, it&#8217;s obvious that she [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;ve gone on a great first date, or maybe even a few dates.  You&#8217;ve followed all the rules without playing games: you <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-communicating/delivering-curiosity-towards-her-life/" target="_blank">delivered curiosity</a> for her life, you&#8217;ve figured out that she has a <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/a-level-desire-grade/" target="_blank">high desire grade level</a> towards you, she&#8217;s not pitching <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-rules/never-accept-tentative-dates/" target="_blank">tentative dates</a> to you but solid ones, it&#8217;s obvious that <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-rules/does-she-like-you-enough/" target="_blank">she likes you enough</a> but <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-rules/you-like-her-too-much/" target="_blank">you don&#8217;t like her more</a> than she likes you, and you know she wants to see you for another date.  Sounds perfect, right?</p>
<p><img class="alignright" title="On a leash" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/418316686_29c95408b7_m.jpg" alt="" width="177" height="240" />Think again.  Early on, some women will be trying to set a precedent for what amount of demands they can make of you, how much they can control your actions.  Instead of using <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/definition/ladyjargon/" target="_blank">ladyjargon</a> openly, they might be asking you to jump and waiting for you to ask &#8220;how high?&#8221;  When you&#8217;re a man with standards for yourself, it&#8217;s important to stick to those standards and rules from the start.  The right woman will appreciate it, the wrong woman will be driven mad with rage wondering why you won&#8217;t kowtow to her demands and inquiries.</p>
<p>Maybe you just had a great date and she&#8217;s already pushing to see you again right away.  Don&#8217;t fall victim to this trial: the next date should be proposed preferably when your schedule allows it, and at least more than a handful of days after the previous one.  A great woman will appreciate a man who has a busy schedule with work, friends, family and personal time.  If you jump into her demands for a back-to-back date, subconsciously you&#8217;re telling her &#8220;I&#8217;m a sucker, I have no plans, and if I do, I&#8217;ll cancel them for you ALWAYS.&#8221;  That precedent you set by asking how high you should jump is one that will trap you for the rest of your relationship.  Let her know gently that you want to see her again, and do it only by proposing the next date when your schedule allows for it.</p>
<p>Of course there are times when a woman proposes a date and you can easily jump at it with interest, but you still have to man-up and be the one who does the proposing early on.  Remember, you&#8217;re judging her desire grade level constantly, and just because she proposes a date with excitement doesn&#8217;t mean she actually has a high desire grade for you: it could also mean she&#8217;s angling to see how far your tether is from her.</p>
<p>Make your dates and plans with her on your schedule.  Don&#8217;t be the boss, just show her that you&#8217;re a natural leader, someone who has an active life with work and friends and family and personal time, but also wants her in that active life.  She&#8217;ll respect you more and her desire grade for you will go up because she knows you&#8217;re busy and knows you&#8217;re still seeking her in that busy life.  And on the occasions you do jump at the invitation that she makes, make sure that they&#8217;re invitations where she does the planning, looking for something amazing to take you to, planning she has to invest in seeking what you want to do and what will excite you.  Don&#8217;t let it be for a movie on the couch and some mac and cheese for dinner.</p>
<p>You work hard to offer her interesting choices, hold her to that same standard.</p>
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		<title>Invited to a public event?  Just say no.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A regular reader told me about something that happened to him recently:
A woman I dated previously seemed to be interested in me again, and she invited me to a public event she was hosting.  I decided to go, but tried to be more determined in making sure that she didn&#8217;t take me for granted.  I [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A regular reader told me about something that happened to him recently:</p>
<blockquote><p>A woman I dated previously seemed to be interested in me again, and she invited me to a public event she was hosting.  I decided to go, but tried to be more determined in making sure that she didn&#8217;t take me for granted.  I went to the event, didn&#8217;t really get any time with her at all, and left after 30 minutes.  I sent her a text message telling her to contact me when she feels like it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s my one word reply: oops.  Here&#8217;s my 4 word reply: stop being a doormat.</p>
<p>First of all, if you previously dated someone, they should stay in the history books.  Why did you stop dating her?  Her desire grade dropped below a B-, probably as low as a D or even an F grade, and she tossed you.  Now she&#8217;s all of a sudden interested in you again, and it happens to coincide with when she hosted a public event?  Did she want to see you, or did she just want as many gullible warm bodies as possible so her event felt successful?</p>
<p>We all know the answer here.  If she wanted to see you, she would have offered you a date night for just you and her alone.  She wouldn&#8217;t be able to stop thinking about you, and she&#8217;d be contacting you more often than just for an invite to her public event.  This wasn&#8217;t a date, and it surely wasn&#8217;t her showing any desire grade to you at all.  You screwed up not only by going, but by showing her your cards and begging for her to text you back.  I bet she didn&#8217;t even respond, did she?</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/220661986_34cfbfde14_m.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" />If you get invited to a public event that someone is hosting or involved in, just say no.  Always say no.  I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s your wife&#8217;s party, if you aren&#8217;t going as her one and only date and companion, picking her up and dropping her off at home, then you&#8217;re not going.  End of story.</p>
<p>If a woman invites me to an event she&#8217;s hosting, I do something different: I counter-offer to make plans on another night.  If she says she&#8217;s too busy, her desire grade is in the freezing level.  Another thing I&#8217;d do is ask her when her event ends, and see if she wants to get together after the event.  Again, her response will tell me exactly what she feels for me.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think that a woman who sends you text messages really has any desire to see you.  In this case, you know exactly why she gave you attention: she needed your body at her event, but any warm breathing human would do.  It wasn&#8217;t you that was invited, it was an open invite and she knew that she could sucker you into showing up because you keep showing her how high your desire grade towards her is.  She has a puppy dog, and all she has to do is pretend to go to the biscuit drawer and he&#8217;ll come running, even if she doesn&#8217;t give him a biscuit.</p>
<p>If you really feel like she wants you to come see her, you should&#8217;ve asked &#8220;What time should I pick you up to take you over there?&#8221;  If she denies you the attempt to pick her up, that&#8217;s her telling you her desire grade is zilch.  Or ask her &#8220;Am I your date for the event?&#8221;  If she says no, then you&#8217;ve got more obvious hints that she has no interest in you.  Even if a woman is busy hosting to 500 people, she will still want the guy she has a high desire grade towards around her as her date.  You&#8217;re not that guy.</p>
<p>I hate to break it this hard, but you have to end all contact with her, even if she&#8217;s considered a friend.  What kind of friend would abuse a guy who likes her this way?  She&#8217;s not your friend, she&#8217;s not your girlfriend, so erase her phone number and delete her from your email contacts list.  If she&#8217;s on your social networks, leave her there, but stop interacting with her, even if she interacts with you.  You don&#8217;t need a game player in your life.</p>
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		<title>Turning the cheek from a kiss: dealbreaker?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A regular Facebook reader, Phil, tells me about a first date he recently had:
I met a woman for a first date coffee.  She gave me all the good signs: touching my arm, flipping her hair, great eye contact.  After the coffee date, she proposed getting a drink closer to where she lives, and I accepted. [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A regular Facebook reader, Phil, tells me about a first date he recently had:</p>
<blockquote><p>I met a woman for a first date coffee.  She gave me all the good signs: touching my arm, flipping her hair, great eye contact.  After the <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-rules/the-first-date-coffee-or-tea/" target="_blank">coffee date</a>, she proposed getting a drink closer to where she lives, and I accepted.  After the drink, she told me she wants to see me again, but when I went in for a kiss, she gave me her cheek.  Is this a dealbreaker?</p></blockquote>
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<p>When it comes to first dates, or 100th dates, watching her signals to gauge her desire level is your only priority on a date.  Phil here must be reading and remember the BAM blog because he noticed some of the important signals that are important to rate a woman&#8217;s desire grade at a high level: touching your arm when you talk, playing with her hair, keeping eye contact, mentioning future dates.  These are all very important signs.  But then there are signs that can be attributed to a lower <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> level, like turning her face when the man initiates a kiss.</p>
<p>Is turning the cheek a dealbreaker?  Should Phil call her for a second date?  Let&#8217;s look at the possibilities&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/81/245769695_8ce60792a8_m.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="160" />First of all, she gave enough positive signals to show that her <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> is at least the B- level.  For those aware, the B- desire grade level is the lowest <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> a woman shows a man that means that he still has a chance to skyrocket her <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> level to the A level.  Still, the turned cheek keeps her in the B to B- desire grade level.</p>
<p>Some women honestly move slowly, but most of the time, a cheek means she likes you just enough to keep you around, but her eyes will be wandering when she&#8217;s not with you.  The women who move so slowly that they can&#8217;t handle a little peck on the lips after a great date have a bad problem: BAGGAGE.  On the other hand, some women just aren&#8217;t used to forward men, and maybe this gal is like that.  This is a good thing, because Phil has broken the ice.  She knows he doesn&#8217;t want to just be friends, so she has no excuse to assume that if and when he calls her for a second date.</p>
<p>Personally, I would call her for a second date, but I&#8217;d wait until the first Sunday that rolls around, and make plans for the middle of the week.  Don&#8217;t initiate text messages or emails, don&#8217;t call her to chit chat.  If she texts or emails you (a sign of high <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> level towards you), reply as if you&#8217;re busy and will give her a ring another day.</p>
<p>Before you call her, do something else: get some more phone numbers from women you meet out and about.  You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain.  By having a backup (or 10), you won&#8217;t hesitate to cut this bird loose if she balks at a second date, or if the second date goes bad.  Having a backup is of tantamount importance in the first season of dating.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too late to go back now, but a few things I would have done in Phil&#8217;s place:</p>
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<li>If she asked me to get a drink with her after coffee or tea and I did have time, I would have moved in for a quick smooch right then and there.  If she turned her cheek to me, I&#8217;d have said no and ended the date.  It changes the mood quickly and puts the mystery on her as to whether or not you like her.</li>
<li>Since having drinks after coffee extends that first date longer than is safe (you want to cut it shorter than she wants so that she thinks about you, and wonders what you&#8217;re up to after your early ending date), I would have finished the date when I still had some alcohol in my glass.  &#8221;Sorry that I have to leave, I had fun tonight, thanks for inviting me out for a drink.&#8221;</li>
<li>When a woman turns her cheek to my kiss, that&#8217;s when I pull back and look her in the eyes and smile.  If she smiles back, I can usually know if a second date is wise or not.  If she turns her eyes away or looks nervous, it&#8217;s usually a sign of low <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> towards me, or she&#8217;s got baggage that she needs to deal with herself.</li>
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<p>Sounds like a near perfect first date, though, and I&#8217;m hoping you can get her out for a second one.  Follow the rules and her <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> will skyrocket.  Break the rules before that date, though, and she&#8217;ll feel the hooks of ownership in you and her <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> level will plummet down to below freezing.</p>
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		<title>Asking about her dating and sexual history</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been on a lot of dates in my life, first dates, second dates, 50th dates.  I&#8217;ve been married unsuccessfully (due to breaking all my own rules!), I&#8217;ve had amazing long term relationships and wonderful spring flings.  Something that always amazes me, even about myself, is how curious men can be about the past relationships [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on a lot of dates in my life, first dates, second dates, 50th dates.  I&#8217;ve been married unsuccessfully (due to breaking all my own rules!), I&#8217;ve had amazing long term relationships and wonderful spring flings.  Something that always amazes me, even about myself, is how curious men can be about the past relationships of the women we&#8217;re interested in, the women we date.</p>
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<p>It&#8217;s now a rule of mine, a strong rule, to try to not inquire at all into her past.  For us guys, the only thing that matters is that she has a high <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> for us, and that she has no venereal diseases that might effect us.  Beyond that, numbers don&#8217;t matter.  Whether she&#8217;s dated 500 guys or slept with 500 guys, none of that effects the rules I set forth in this blog and in my book.</p>
<p>The key is to realize one thing: if she has a high <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> level for you, you&#8217;re doing things right.  Maybe she&#8217;s gone through an entire village of men before you, but the fact that you have her now and you&#8217;re keeping her intrigued with your mystery and your availability (or lack thereof, specifically).  Don&#8217;t worry about her past.</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1256/622530882_0e82f109ab_m.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" />In situations where she&#8217;s worried about your past, not being the one to inquire about hers gives you a leg up.  If she asks you &#8220;How many women have you slept with?&#8221; the proper answer is &#8220;You have a past, I have a past, and none of that matters to us now, does it?&#8221;  It&#8217;s important to remember this even if something as casual as their last failed relationship comes up.  That relationship failure led you to to the point where you wanted someone else in your lives, and that&#8217;s your and her, right?  Our pasts brought us to our present, and our present leads us into our futures.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s another important fact: what matters more about keeping score is not how many guys she&#8217;s been with before you, but how many guys she&#8217;ll be with after you.  You want that number to be zero, right?  Then work on the rules, the regulations, and at keeping her <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> towards you ultra-high.  Don&#8217;t bring up your past girlfriends, even the good ones.  Don&#8217;t ask about her past boyfriends, especially the bad ones.  If she&#8217;s so busy thinking about you all the time, wanting to see you constantly, and having a blast every time you do give her the chance to spend time with you, she won&#8217;t be thinking about those exes, so neither should you.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s early in the relationship and she hasn&#8217;t brought up wanting to be exclusive, you probably are spending too much time with her to begin with.  Dating isn&#8217;t a numbers game, it&#8217;s a lifestyle of experience.  Just because you have one non-exclusive girlfriend in your life doesn&#8217;t mean you shouldn&#8217;t be putting yourself out there more and experiencing more than just one woman.  The best case scenario here is that you meet someone better, and think even less about your concerns over her dating or sexual history.</p>
<p>When you find one who really catches your eye, and whose eye you catch, you won&#8217;t be thinking about how many times she&#8217;s had sex or dinner with other guys, you&#8217;ll be thinking of ways to get her to think about how many times she&#8217;ll want to do those things with you for a long time to come.</p>
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		<title>You like her too much</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An interesting private message hit my Facebook today from someone who is starting to read this site:
I recently started dating a woman and I can&#8217;t keep my mind off of her.  I don&#8217;t think she likes me as much as I like her.  What is the right thing to do?
Maybe you&#8217;re in the same boat. [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting private message hit my Facebook today from someone who is starting to read this site:</p>
<blockquote><p>I recently started dating a woman and I can&#8217;t keep my mind off of her.  I don&#8217;t think she likes me as much as I like her.  What is the right thing to do?</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe you&#8217;re in the same boat.  Maybe you&#8217;ve been in that same boat.  Here&#8217;s a little story:</p>
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<p>A guy meet a gal, she&#8217;s beautiful, she seems into him, they go out on a date.  Maybe they go out on two dates in 1 week, or even 3.  He texts her, and she writes back right away.  He emails her, and she emails back.  They become Facebook friends and he sees that she has 750 guy friends on there all posting on her wall or replying to her inane status updates.  Whenever he&#8217;s not with her, he thinks about her.  He checks to see if she&#8217;s on Google or Facebook Chat, and the minute she&#8217;s on, he sends her a message.  He tells her he misses her and is excited to see her.  They go out whenever she is free, and if she proposes a date, he clears his plans with friends or other people just to see her.</p>
<p>And then she stops responding to his text messages promptly.  His long missive emails go unreplied to, or she just sends him a short one sentence reply to a 500 sentence chapter of a romance novel.  She doesn&#8217;t reply to his chats because she&#8217;s never logging into Google or Facebook.  When he invites her out, she has other plans.  Maybe he&#8217;ll see her photo tagged on Facebook with 3 other guys moments before she untags herself.</p>
<p>What happened?  Was liking her too much a problem?</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/28311398_312eb69822_m.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="174" />No.  You can never like someone too much, but you can kill a woman&#8217;s <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/a-level-desire-grade/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> for you by showing her how much you like her.  Early on, when they first met, she had a high <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/a-level-desire-grade/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> towards him because she knew nothing about him.  She didn&#8217;t own him, so she chased and let him chase her.  But over time, quicker rather than later, she captured more and more information about him and then realized she won: she owned him.  All her wonderful feelings she was feeling: fear that he had 15 girlfriends, fear that he didn&#8217;t find her attractive, fear that he would be too busy for her, fear that he didn&#8217;t like her enough: they all went in the toilet.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a mystery, women actually LIKE feeling those feelings.  If a guy has 15 women chasing him, she wants to win by being #1 and kicking all the gals to the curb.  The minute she knows you&#8217;re owned by her, she has no reason to chase; the mystery is gone.  If a guy responds to every email or text or chat request instantly, she knows he&#8217;s not that busy.  Again, she wins, she owns him.  If he jumps at the chance to see her whenever she is free, she won again: he&#8217;s not busy, or whatever he had planned is less important than her.  Another win for the lady, another loss for Mr. <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/definition/chicken/" target="_blank">Chicken-man</a>.</p>
<p>As always, it boils down to her <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/a-level-desire-grade/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> for you.  When she still offers to accept your dates on occasion, but not always, it means you&#8217;ve fallen way below the B- <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/a-level-desire-grade/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> level minimum, maybe as far as a D-.  Any more hiccups and she&#8217;ll end it, probably without telling you.</p>
<p>So what do you do to keep her <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/a-level-desire-grade/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> high?  Don&#8217;t let her win.  It&#8217;s not a game for you, but it&#8217;s a game for her.  Stop playing her game.  Don&#8217;t spend every waking moment with her.  There&#8217;s no need to be in a rush to respond to her emails or chats or texts instantly, because you have other things going on, right?  Do you want to be one more throwaway guy friend on her Facebook that tries to get her attention, or do you want to be the guy she&#8217;s thinking about, wondering about, worrying about?</p>
<p>Anything she texts you to tell you about, email you about, chat with you about, just give her the honest truth: you want to hear about it, so make plans to see her face to face so she can have your full attention.  Do you want your entire dating history to be a series of texts, chats and emails, or do you want to date a woman who you actually know because you can see her, read her, gauge if she has a high <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/a-level-desire-grade/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> for you or a low one?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s OK to like her a lot, but it&#8217;s not OK to let her know that by being too available, by being too responsive too quickly, and by giving her all the information to know that you&#8217;re just like every other chicken-man she&#8217;s dated before you.  Let her win, and she&#8217;ll walk.  It&#8217;s her game, but you don&#8217;t have to play by her rules.  Stop playing entire and follow my rules and you&#8217;ll see that she&#8217;ll continue to chase you, through months or years of dating, or even courtship or marriage.  There&#8217;s no need to play games, not when you know that the reality is that she wants to chase someone forever.  Maybe that person will be you.</p>
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		<title>The first date, coffee or tea</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you&#8217;ve met someone, in real life, online or a blind date through friends, the most important things you want to do on a first date is to gauge her initial desire grade towards you.  A first date is not about learning much about her, but about seeing if she likes you.  The fact that [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you&#8217;ve met someone, in real life, online or a blind date through friends, the most important things you want to do on a first date is to gauge her initial <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> towards you.  A first date is not about learning much about her, but about seeing if she likes you.  The fact that you&#8217;re taking her out means you have at least a B-level grade desire towards her, so it&#8217;s more important to use this article as a guide to see if she&#8217;s worth taking out on a second date.</p>
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<p>A first date should be called that: a date.  Don&#8217;t call it a &#8220;meeting&#8221; or a &#8220;meet and greet&#8221; to her.  You&#8217;re letting her know what you&#8217;re looking for by calling it a date.  If she has a single word of doubt towards it, and says so, cancel the date.  You don&#8217;t need to take out a woman who is uncertain about you, even if she&#8217;s never met you before.  A woman who is adverse to dating is not someone you want to chase.</p>
<p>The first date should be something safe for her, quiet, not involving alcohol or too intimate of a location.  I prefer the coffee shop or the tea house.  Do your research before taking a woman out to a local coffee spot: you don&#8217;t want it filled with too many people, try to avoid places with live music or loud recorded music.  A place with some couches or at least chairs that are near each other is perfect.  Don&#8217;t do restaurants with booth style seating where you sit across from each other.</p>
<div class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 250px"><img title="Coffee Date" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2181/2197990074_37a4d70288_m.jpg" alt="This guy is sitting too far away." width="240" height="192" /><p class="wp-caption-text">This guy is sitting too far away.</p></div>
<p>Because it&#8217;s a first date, my rule about picking her up does not have to be followed.  She doesn&#8217;t know you, and even if you have years of history together it&#8217;s better to make her feel safe by giving her the option of bailing if she&#8217;s unsure about you.  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with a woman showing her low <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> by calling it a night early and leaving.  Better now than 5 years from now when she takes your house, car, kids and bank account.</p>
<p>Plan the timing of your date where you know you can be there on time.  Men who are late are not attractive, even if some women might have a high desire grade for guys who treat them badly.  Those women are attracted to <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/definition/vulture/" target="_blank">vulture-men</a>, and you&#8217;re not going to be that guy.  Be on time, not too early or too late.</p>
<p>Once you meet, keep your paws off of her.  Don&#8217;t go in for a hug or a handshake or any sort of bodily touch.  Don&#8217;t even put your hand on her back or her arm or shoulder.  Avoid touching her as if she had the plague.  This is an important step because it accomplishes a few things:</p>
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<li>It shows her that you respect her personal space,</li>
<li>If she has a really high desire grade towards you, she&#8217;ll make physical contact,</li>
<li>It gives you the opportunity to watch her body language.</li>
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<p>When you sit next to her, make sure you sit close enough to her that you&#8217;re within easy reach.  Don&#8217;t sit across a table, sit down at the chair one space over, or on the couch next to her.  Like the old Seinfeld and Zoolander joke, most guys can only face one direction and be able to pay attention.  In my studies, right-handed men face right better, left-handed men face left better.  Pick your spot based on your comfort direction.</p>
<p>Immediately upon entering the room, and from that point forward, if you see her, make eye contact with her and keep it.  Don&#8217;t be looking left or right or up or down because it&#8217;ll be a subconscious signal to her that you&#8217;re nervous, lying, or you don&#8217;t want to be there.  Locking eyes with her will actually put her at ease and show her that you&#8217;re confident.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a first date, it&#8217;s coffee or tea, and it&#8217;s cheap.  Sit her down before you order anything.  Because it&#8217;s not going to be an expensive date, offer to buy her a coffee or tea.  Get her order, repeat it 5 times in your head, and go get it.  If she&#8217;s in your view when you&#8217;re at the counter, take a glance over to her and smile if she looks back.  Don&#8217;t hold that look, just get the smile if you can.  If she&#8217;s not facing you, don&#8217;t worry about it.  A smile adds comfort, but it also confirms your confidence level to her.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve brought her the $5 drink of her choice, and you&#8217;re sitting next to her.  Your part of the date is practically over.  My old quote is &#8220;You can tell if she&#8217;s worth a second date within the first 8 minutes of a first date.&#8221;  You&#8217;re almost at the 8 minute mark, all you need to do is get her conversation going.  Notice I said <strong>her</strong> conversation.  This isn&#8217;t about you, today, it&#8217;s about you gauging her desire level.  Also remember that first date conversation is when you&#8217;ll first witness her <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/ladyjargon/" target="_blank">Ladyjargon</a>, so don&#8217;t take everything at face value that she says.</p>
<p>Avoid any topics that might bring in sad or sexual conversation into the fold.  Don&#8217;t talk about work or ex-boyfriends, don&#8217;t talk about how much you like her, don&#8217;t talk about a recent illness or a fight you&#8217;re having with your roommate.  Instead, just make questions that she can answer with variety.  Avoid yes or no questions completely.  It&#8217;s better to say &#8220;Have you lived in the city long?&#8221; rather than &#8220;Do you live alone?&#8221;  Let her build up on your questions with her own answers.  LISTEN.  Everything she talks about should lead you into new things <strong>for her </strong>to discuss.</p>
<p>If she asks you any questions, answer them promptly and without much detail.  The questions she&#8217;ll ask you can often times be <em>projection</em>.  She wants you to ask those same questions of her, but she also wants to talk more than you talk.  Even if you&#8217;re a bad listener, just shut up.  If I start to overtalk, I&#8217;ll tap my own knee with my fingers 5 times slowly to gauge when I should shut up.  If I answer any questions of hers, I will always end with a new question for her to answer.</p>
<p>If you let her talk more, her desire grade will go up.  You&#8217;re a listener and not a bragger.  She can open up to you about things and not have you walk all over her voice.  Eye contact is so important.  Your body language is, too.  Keep your hands on the table or your lap, not in a pocket or crossed across your chest.  I prefer having my hands on the table, giving her easy reach of my arms if she wants to casually touch them when she laughs or asks me something.  You&#8217;re fishing for signals from her, so don&#8217;t block yourself off to the best signals.</p>
<p>Watch her body language: are her eyes on you and not that hot, tall, skinny coffee server?  Is she nodding her head?  Is her body positioned to face yours, or away from yours?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not looking for a 10 hour first date, you&#8217;re looking for an hour, tops.  This is the hardest thing for me as a man to do if I&#8217;m having fun.  I want to sit with her for 4 hours to try to confirm that she likes me, but there&#8217;s no way of knowing on date #1 if she really has a truly high <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> for you.  Her desire will increase after she leaves and wonders about you.  If you stay too long, she won&#8217;t wonder, and date#2 won&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>After your coffee is done, if you still have time left in that hour, ask if she wants another drink or water.  Get something size small if possible, because you&#8217;re going to want to bail at the hour mark.  The best time to bail is when she&#8217;s having fun, smiling, talking, making eye contact.  If she&#8217;s touched you (while laughing, going to the bathroom, or just talking), you&#8217;ve got a live one.  Reel her in by ending the date earlier than most guys do.  If she has to get back to work in an hour, end the date at 40 minutes.</p>
<p>This will make her wonder about you.  She&#8217;ll have good questions, and she&#8217;ll have nervous ones for herself.  This is good; the more she thinks about you once you leave, the more likely you are to have a second date.</p>
<p>I always try to get a very simple and prudish kiss on the lips when I leave.  I&#8217;ll let her know I had fun and I&#8217;d like to get going since I have other plans I have to do.  Don&#8217;t be specific about those plans, even if they&#8217;re just to go home and wash dishes.  Let her wonder.  If she says she had fun and she&#8217;d like to do it again, smile, lock eyes, move your face in towards her and if she doesn&#8217;t turn her face, just give her a light smooch on the lips.  No tongue or hand holding or head holding is needed.  If she turns her head, it&#8217;s not that she&#8217;s a prude or that she moves slowly, <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-rules/does-she-like-you-enough/" target="_blank">she doesn&#8217;t like you enough</a>, friend.</p>
<p>Then leave.  Exit and keep on moving.  Don&#8217;t look back, no matter how much you want to.  If you leave with her, remember that your date is over so there&#8217;s no need to share anything.  Make her wonder what you&#8217;re thinking!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a big rule, too: DO NOT TEXT OR EMAIL HER TO SAY ANYTHING.  I like to see if her <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> is at the <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/a-level-desire-grade/" target="_blank">A-level</a> if she texts me first or emails me first to say she had fun or she wants to see me again.  If she doesn&#8217;t, it means she&#8217;s not at the <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/a-level-desire-grade/" target="_blank">A-level</a>, and I have to decide if I want to risk what little time I have seeing a woman who isn&#8217;t already thinking about me after an hour of coffee.</p>
<p>Remember, the first date is not about you, it&#8217;s about her: you want to see if she likes you enough, and you want to create more reason for her to like you.  Don&#8217;t do what you think she wants you to do.  Don&#8217;t do what other guys do, you&#8217;re trying to meet her aspects of <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-rules/giving-her-some-economic-truth-dating-supply-and-demand/" target="_blank">dating supply and demand</a> that are rare from other guys.  You&#8217;re different.  You&#8217;re a man.  You have your act together, and you know for years you&#8217;ve chased women who were never really that interested in you.  Now it&#8217;s time to find one that is.</p>
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		<title>Giving her some economic truth: dating supply and demand</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you&#8217;re involved in financial decisions, there&#8217;s reality to every decision: supply and demand.  If you want the latest electronic gadget that everyone wants, there&#8217;s going to be a lot of demand and not a lot of supply.  This causes prices to skyrocket.  If a company makes a billion pencils that no one wants, there&#8217;s [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you&#8217;re involved in financial decisions, there&#8217;s reality to every decision: supply and demand.  If you want the latest electronic gadget that everyone wants, there&#8217;s going to be a lot of demand and not a lot of supply.  This causes prices to skyrocket.  If a company makes a billion pencils that no one wants, there&#8217;s a big supply and no demand: prices fall.</p>
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<p>In dating, supply and demand have the same pressures on the economic value of actions in any relationship.  We don&#8217;t want what we can get anywhere, we want what is in low supply out there, but in high demand by us.</p>
<p>For women, their words and <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/definition/ladyjargon/" target="_blank">Ladyjargon</a> usually bring confusion to the man trying to figure out what she wants.  I&#8217;ll make it simple on you to figure it out: she doesn&#8217;t have a high demand for things other guys are happy to supply to her.  When you give her a supply of things she is in high demand for, you&#8217;ll skyrocket her to having an <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/a-level-desire-grade/" target="_blank">A-level desire grade</a> towards you.</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3483/3278662048_15331d9e24_m.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="171" />Think about all the things you WANT to tell a woman or do for a woman, and then think again if other guys would do the same.  Does every guy tell a pretty gal that she&#8217;s beautiful?  Does every guy who meets a fantastic woman want to be the first one to say &#8220;I love you&#8221;?  Does every guy shovel money at her, take her to the fanciest restaurants, and want to spend every waking moment with her?</p>
<p>If so, you&#8217;re not going to be the one fulfilling something that she isn&#8217;t wanting in her life, that other men are happy to waste their time doing.</p>
<p>Simple compliments like &#8220;You&#8217;re beautiful&#8221; or &#8220;you look so sexy tonight&#8221; are wasted effort.  Once you start puking that garbage, she&#8217;ll know that she owns you.  The minute you tell a woman who has spent 2 minutes getting her clothes on and her makeup together that she&#8217;s beautiful, she knows she won&#8217;t have to work hard for compliments in the future.  You failed her, and you failed yourself.  You want your woman to be excited to see you, to go out of her want to look nice and attract you, right?  There&#8217;s no point in complimenting her repeatedly.</p>
<p>When you share your feelings verbally, she also gets an extra point on her column towards winning the game towards ownership.  When she knows she owns you, her <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> level plummets.  The best way for a man to share his feelings for a woman is by taking time to plan incredible dates, by going out on those dates and giving her your full attention, by listening to her rather than speaking over her, and by showing her your physical desire by kissing her when she gives you the signals that she wants to be kissed.</p>
<p>When an average <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/definition/chicken/" target="_blank">chicken-man</a> is with a woman, he won&#8217;t keep his paws off of her.  A man touching a woman is a quick way for her to confirm ownership.  That same <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/definition/chicken/" target="_blank">chicken-man</a> will fill in lulls in conversation with compliments; the <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/definition/hawk/" target="_blank">hawk-man</a> won&#8217;t have lulls in conversation because he&#8217;ll be asking her questions about things that she&#8217;s mentioned, even if they seem unimportant to him.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to splurge on a date: any man can save up $150 for a big dinner and make reservations.  How about planning an exciting date that doesn&#8217;t leave your wallet melting?  Find out what she likes to do for fun besides eating lobster and drinking fine wine and going to expensive concerts.  Does she like pool or bowling?  Don&#8217;t do that &#8212; how about finding what else she might like that she hasn&#8217;t tried before?  Take her out to 5 different bars that you&#8217;ve already scoped out, bars with pinball machines or an old version of Miss Pac-Man.  Share a beer at each one, and bounce to the one when that single glass of brew is empty.</p>
<p>What about focusing a date on seeing things from different perspectives?  One of my favorite dates revolved around life music, but it wasn&#8217;t about going to one venue and seeing 3 loud bands and not getting any input from the woman I was with.  Instead, I took her to a (quiet) blues concert in the sticks, then we jumped to a piano recital to a church and we finished the night by going to a loud pub to hear the headlining band.  Throughout the date I was able to gauge her interest, listen to her talk about what she liked or hated, and kept her excited because we were always on the move.</p>
<p>What about movie night?  Does going to a dark and quiet theater to sit next to a woman you can&#8217;t talk to or read visually really sound appealing?  If it&#8217;s time for a movie, how about taking her to a DVD store and letting her pick out a movie or two?  You have a couch and a TV and a DVD player, right?</p>
<p>When it comes to bringing value to a dating relationship, we have to look at the laws of supply and demand.  If you&#8217;re going to perform an action or say a phrase, think quick: is this something any other guy can do, will do?  If so, don&#8217;t do it.  Think about an action or an activity that is rare.  Don&#8217;t be the one jumping on her for a kiss when you&#8217;re playing pool; instead, send her a look of desire and see if she comes to you.  All it takes is a stare and a smile that you steal back immediately as you focus on hitting that cue ball.  Don&#8217;t stare and smile and stay that way, give her a taste of your desire through actions, and let her come to you.</p>
<p>Women love the chase, they love knowing that they&#8217;re not owning a man and that the man is staying their own person.  Don&#8217;t fall into traps with flowers sent to work or dates to boring but expensive restaurants.  Don&#8217;t compliment her unless she&#8217;s really gone out of her way.  The best compliment to a woman is to notice that her hair was cut or colored, that she&#8217;s wearing clothes that are outside of her usual attire.  Notice the new, but don&#8217;t compliment the usual.  She&#8217;ll be excited for you, feel intrigue and mystery about why you treat her so differently.</p>
<p>If you act like every other man that was in her life before you, you&#8217;ll join them in the breakup club when she&#8217;s moved on to a new guy who is fresh and exciting, who she doesn&#8217;t yet own.  Yet.</p>
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		<title>Does she like you enough?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 20:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s a weird issue that separates men and women in dating: the trigger that causes one or the other to end the relationship.  Most relationship experts will tell you that the biggest triggers to a breakup are:

Lying
Cheating
Lack of attention
Moving too fast/too slow
Loss of attraction


These are all incorrect.  Not a single one of these items is [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a weird issue that separates men and women in dating: the trigger that causes one or the other to end the relationship.  Most relationship experts will tell you that the biggest triggers to a breakup are:</p>
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<li>Lying</li>
<li>Cheating</li>
<li>Lack of attention</li>
<li>Moving too fast/too slow</li>
<li>Loss of attraction</li>
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<p>These are all incorrect.  Not a single one of these items is a trigger.  The only trigger that causes a relationship to end is when one person or the other has too low of a <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> towards the other person, and they want to move on.</p>
<p>The list of 5 items above can all affect the <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> of a person in a relationship, causing it to fall below their minimum acceptable level before a breakup, but they aren&#8217;t the actual reason for a breakup.</p>
<p>The issue that separates men from women in terms of breakup rules is simple: men break up when women fall below a B <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> (in terms of the level of a desire a man has for a woman), women breakup when the man hits the F stage.  A woman can show a D <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> towards a man and still keep him around.  A man won&#8217;t show a C <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> for a woman and keep her around.</p>
<p>Why do women keep men around that they have no desire for?  It could be loneliness.  It might be that they feel society doesn&#8217;t allow them to ask men out on dates and look for their next boyfriend or husband.  It might be that the man provides just enough comfort or entertainment that the woman feels like she can casually look around for the next best thing without getting rid of someone who at least gives her a little bit of attention to her life.  But when that next best thing comes around, the guy she has C or D level desire for is toast.</p>
<p>Because of this, it is very important for a man to continue to judge his girlfriends&#8217; <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> level towards him, constantly.  If he sees signs that she&#8217;s fallen below a B- grade, it is wiser to end the relationship now, even if you still have a A+ <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> towards her.  Once a woman&#8217;s <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> for you falls into C+ or lower territory, it will be near impossible to get it back up.</p>
<p>If your <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> towards her is an A, and hers towards you is a B, you&#8217;re in good shape.  Even if you&#8217;re at a B and she&#8217;s at an A level, it&#8217;s still perfect!  You may never be equal in <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> towards each other, but it is vitally important that you don&#8217;t waste your time, money and future happiness by continuing to date a woman who is just keeping you around for kicks, or because she&#8217;s lazy, or that she&#8217;s afraid to be alone.  You&#8217;re better than that, right?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even though I hold to this hard rule most of the time, I still fall victim to letting my guard down and getting hurt, even before a relationship has a chance to stand on its own.  It&#8217;s a rule that I reinforce all the time with men asking for help in dating: never accept [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I hold to this hard rule most of the time, I still fall victim to letting my guard down and getting hurt, even before a relationship has a chance to stand on its own.  It&#8217;s a rule that I reinforce all the time with men asking for help in dating: never accept a tentative date from a woman.</p>
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<p>Women will use different <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/ladyjargon/" target="_blank">Ladyjargon</a> to set up a tentative date, one that isn&#8217;t actually set in stone.  She&#8217;ll say stuff like &#8220;Let&#8217;s pencil in next Thursday&#8221; or &#8220;I think I&#8217;m free on Thursday but I&#8217;ll confirm the morning of.&#8221;  This means she doesn&#8217;t care enough about seeing you to actually make solid plans.  Worse, she may be keeping you on the backburner as a possible backup, or a backup to another backup that she likes more.</p>
<p>Women will quickly deny this and say more <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/ladyjargon/" target="_blank">Ladyjargon</a> like &#8220;Maybe she&#8217;s waiting on an important job phone call&#8221; or &#8220;What if she really is unsure if she&#8217;s free?&#8221;  That&#8217;s good talk there, but it&#8217;s still garbage.  Women don&#8217;t even know they&#8217;re saying that trash most of the time.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s consider those two defensive positions.  If she might get an important job phone call, then she should just stay home until she gets that call.  She should actually be a woman and tell you she wants to see you but her job phone call is really important.  And if she&#8217;s not sure if she&#8217;s free means she will always be unsure with you about her schedule.  Disorganized females are bad people to date.</p>
<div class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 193px"><img title="Shes too busy for you" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1363/1217502110_2433d99f44_m.jpg" alt="Shes too busy for you" width="183" height="240" /><p class="wp-caption-text">She&#39;s &quot;too busy&quot; for you</p></div>
<p>The reality is that she&#8217;s not into you enough to actually look forward to a date, be it a first date or a 50th one.  Women with a high <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade level</a> of at least a B- will always want to see you.  If their <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> is high enough, she&#8217;ll cancel plans she already has with others to see you if you propose a specific night.  Women with a low <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade level</a>, a C+ or less, will prefer to make tentative plans just in case the guy she likes better asks her out, or if her favorite show on TV isn&#8217;t a rerun, or if she decides she&#8217;d rather do laundry than deal with you for a few hours.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re better than laundry, or a TV show, or the other guy, right?  And if she likes you enough, she should mark that date down on he calendar with a permanent marker.  If her dating life is secondary to an important phone call for a job she interviewed for, or any other situation, she should be focusing on that and then you should be the first person she calls after her situation is resolved.  It&#8217;s better to let her know you encourage whatever it is she&#8217;s waiting for, and that you&#8217;d be happy to make concrete plans once her schedule is resolved.</p>
<p>A <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/hawk/" target="_blank">hawk</a>-man doesn&#8217;t date tentative women, he dates women who want to spend time with him.  It&#8217;s healthy for a woman to have things she has to do with her life, but if she&#8217;s uncertain about what is more important to her, you&#8217;ll be the one sitting and waiting way too often.  Women who can make up their minds, one way or the other, are the ones you want to chase, the ones you want chasing you.  It&#8217;s better to know she has something to do so you can make other concrete plans.</p>
<blockquote><p><img class="alignleft" src="/images/halt.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" />It&#8217;s important to realize that not accepting a tentative date is not the same as <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/communicating/isnt-this-just-playing-games/" target="_blank">playing games</a>.  Women appreciate, both consciously and subconsciously, men who are goal-oriented and driven.  Part of chasing a goal is know if that goal is even attainable, and being able to walk away from even months of work if you realize the goal is impossible.  Because women often have a strong desire not to hurt a man&#8217;s feelings, they&#8217;re not necessarily being evil when they&#8217;re actively putting you on the backburner, they&#8217;re just trying to spare your feelings.  By making yourself available only for concrete plans, you&#8217;re showing her that you&#8217;re goal-oriented, and that you&#8217;re not interested in her if she&#8217;s not that interested in you.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just because a date is concrete doesn&#8217;t mean that everything is perfect.  Read into her body language and even what words she uses in order to gauge her <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/desire-grade-basics/" target="_blank">desire grade</a> towards you.  If she says she&#8217;s excited to see you, that&#8217;s an A or B grade.  If she says she&#8217;s willing to see you, how would you grade that?  For me, that&#8217;s a B- at best, and possibly a solid C.  Remember, <a href="http://www.being-a-man.com/dating-definitions/ladyjargon/" target="_blank">Ladyjargon</a> isn&#8217;t always confusing, sometimes her use of it is subtle.  She wants to spare your feelings, but you should be more focused on sparing your time from what can be a great waste of effort.</p>
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